From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Mar 27 10:21:07 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DFcNf-0007Ut-QX for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:20:59 -0800 Received: from n19a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.48]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DFcNd-0007UC-Lw for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:20:59 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n19.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2005 18:20:22 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.198] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2005 18:20:22 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 68198 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2005 18:20:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Mar 2005 18:20:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakermmtao12.cox.net) (68.230.240.27) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Mar 2005 18:20:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [24.250.99.39]) by lakermmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050327182019.TNE2476.lakermmtao12.cox.net@[127.0.0.1]>; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:20:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4246F819.6080209@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <20050326194416.60028.qmail@web60502.mail.yahoo.com> <537d06d005032705071496f143@mail.gmail.com> <20050327180029.GW10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20050327180029.GW10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Originating-IP: 68.230.240.27 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:14:49 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: New to Lojban and a question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 9678 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 03:07:23PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > >>On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:44:16 -0800 (PST), Ryan Gray >> wrote: >> >>>I would think that a logical language such as Lojban would have >>>more precise words for these ideas. >> >>I'm reminded of the Lojban proverb, "The price of infinite >>precision is infinite verbosity". > > > lo nu cusku se kai lo cimni ka satci cu se sarcu lo nu cusku ci'i da > > Unfortunately, satci is (IMO) Wholly unsatisfying for this, and most > other, uses of the English word "precision". I've yet to come up > with anything I like much better, though. satci mapti pei There is another sense of precise which may be captured in English with the word "narrow" or "focused" or perhaps "exclusive". (Exclusion of alternative meanings is what increased verbosity in Lojban provides, in theory). I am led again to think that we may need a gismu for the "exclusive" sense of "only" that might apply here. But far be it from me to propose new gismu %^) perhaps "narrow in dimension [exactness of] meaning" lojbab ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/TzSHvD/SOnJAA/79vVAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/