From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 28 14:24:35 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:24:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DG2ep-0000eE-Ez for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:24:27 -0800 Received: from web81305.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.80]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DG2en-0000du-5e for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:24:27 -0800 Message-ID: <20050328222353.30762.qmail@web81305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.69.48.37] by web81305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:23:53 PST Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:23:53 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: New to Lojban and a question To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9693 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- Robert LeChevalier wrote: > > There is another sense of precise which may be > captured in English with > the word "narrow" or "focused" or perhaps > "exclusive". (Exclusion of > alternative meanings is what increased > verbosity in Lojban provides, in > theory). I am led again to think that we may > need a gismu for the > "exclusive" sense of "only" that might apply > here. But far be it from > me to propose new gismu %^) > I have been trying for two days to figurte out what "the 'exclusive' sense of 'only'" might be. I think I may have it: the importing sense based on "exclusive disjunction" as opposed to the sense based on "inclusive disjunction" which allows that only so and so's are such and suches to be true when there are no such and suches. Right? But the remark also raises the usual question: Why not use -- in a logical language -- the logical "only"? Why, especially, have a *brival* (let alone a gismu) for it?