From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Apr 04 06:38:38 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 04 Apr 2005 06:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DIRmW-00008Z-DH for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 06:38:20 -0700 Received: from web81304.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.79]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DIRmK-00007m-06 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 06:38:19 -0700 Message-ID: <20050404133736.50567.qmail@web81304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.69.48.37] by web81304.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 06:37:36 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 06:37:36 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: tanru To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9755 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- Jorge Llambías wrote: > On Apr 4, 2005 7:59 AM, opi_lauma > wrote: > > 9.10) la tam. [cu] melbi tavla la meris. > > Tom beautifully-talks to Mary. > > Tom is a beautiful-talker to Mary. > > > > > "beautiful talker" can also mean that he is a > talker and he is > > beautiful but he is beautiful not as talker, > he just have a nice face, > > for example. Can this second meaning of the > second sentence be a one > > of the possible meanings of the original > lojban sentence? > > Yes, tanru are vague by nature. When you need > to be more > precise, there are ways to do so. For example: > > lo nu la tam tavla la meris cu melbi > Tom's talking to Mary is beautiful. > > la tam melbi gi'e tavla la meris > Tom is beautiful and talks to Mary. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes And, for that matter, "talks about beauty" and jsut about any other imaginable combination of "beauty" and "talk." Context -- including asking for explanations, is hoped to resolve the unclarity.