From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Apr 15 02:24:17 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DMN3X-0001Tv-D3 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:24:07 -0700 Received: from n20a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.49]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DMN3S-0001T2-Po for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:24:06 -0700 DomainKey-Signature: Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n20.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2005 09:23:25 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.31] by mailer2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2005 09:23:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 71257 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2005 09:23:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2005 09:23:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakermmtao06.cox.net) (68.230.240.33) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2005 09:23:24 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.103] (really [24.250.99.39]) by lakermmtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050415092257.DOLM21504.lakermmtao06.cox.net@[192.168.1.103]>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:22:57 -0400 Message-ID: <425F839E.1040905@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: Opi Lauma Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <20050415082804.91529.qmail@web31308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050415082804.91529.qmail@web31308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.230.240.33 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:04:30 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: X1 is X2 by definition. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9834 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Opi Lauma wrote: > do you know whether there is a special selbri to make > definition in lojban (I belive it is). For example I > want to say that X1 is something (having some > properties) by definition. Or, on another words, > everything that have the mentioned properties is X1 > (by definition). Not a selbri, since it would be linguistically cumbersome to express all of our definitions as complete sentences including the claim of definition. ca'e As a selbri, it isn't clear how your request differs from some flavor of sruma. lojbab ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/RzSHvD/UOnJAA/79vVAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/