From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 26 05:28:10 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DQPAV-00082O-Mw for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:28:00 -0700 Received: from web81304.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.79]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQPAO-00081Q-O3 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:27:59 -0700 Message-ID: <20050426122719.18344.qmail@web81304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.69.48.37] by web81304.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:27:19 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:27:19 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: {xu} - question. To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9876 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- Opi Lauma wrote: > > coi > > Is it right that {mi vecnu ti xu ta}, implies > that {mi > vecnu zo'e ta} is thru and I just want to know > what is > {zo'e}, or more precisely I even have a > supposition > about {zo'e}, I think that (it is/may be) {ti}? > > ki'e .i co'o mi'e .opilaumas > Not by itself. It would be an appropriate way to ask whether your guess was right, but it could equally be the beginning of the discussion, with no earlier {zo'e} involved. And of course, if the answer is "No" (na go'i}, it might because something else was sold or nothing was or to someone else or by someone else. The placement of {xu} has some pragmatic force, "the questionable part is here," but not strong enough to to call it an implication, nmore a suggestion or first guess.