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Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:40:14 -0400
From: Adam COOPER <adamgarrigus@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban] Re: zoi. ky. dansk ky. .e zoi. ky. Byelorussian ky.
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On 5/28/05, Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2005, Aleksej R. Serdyukov wrote:
> 
> > How to say "Danish language"? "Byelorussian language"?
> 
> No words are established for these at the moment. Jbovlaste lists
> "danmark" for Denmark, and "blabruk" for Belarus, but nothing for the
> corresponding languages.
> 
> I suppose someone will coin cmene or fu'ivla for the languages when they
> are needed. In the latter case, the place structure will be something like
> "x1 is Danish in aspect x2", so that one needs to further specify that it
> is the Danish language one is referring to (as opposed to the Danish
> country, a Danish person, or even a Danish sausage).

I've been partial to fu'ivla along the following lines:
Dane: natmrdana x1 is a Dane
Danish: bangrdana x1 is Danish-language used by x2 to express x3
Denmark: gugdrdana x1 is Denmark

or something like that.