From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue May 03 13:32:06 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 03 May 2005 13:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DT43h-0005UP-8q for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:31:57 -0700 Received: from bay23-dav12.bay23.hotmail.com ([64.4.22.192] helo=hotmail.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DT43g-0005UA-4p for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:31:57 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:31:21 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.218.132.157 by BAY23-DAV12.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 03 May 2005 20:31:20 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.218.132.157] X-Originating-Email: [betsemes@hotmail.com] X-Sender: betsemes@hotmail.com From: "Betsemes" To: "Main Lojban List" Subject: [lojban] Question about something I'm reading.............. Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:29:50 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2005 20:31:21.0188 (UTC) FILETIME=[1126A240:01C5501F] X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-archive-position: 9914 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: betsemes@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I downloaded what I believe is chapter one of a story called "la nicte cadzu". Some text in that story is bothering me. sy ze'a zgana lo tarmi poi ca'o cenba .i ba bo sy suksa jimpe lo du'u le tarmi cu simsa lo .oxtapodi The last word begins in a vowel but ends in a vowel too. It seems to be a fu'ivla, but... * I cannot find it in jbovlaste * jbofi'e seems to not have any problem with it at all * cmafi'e breaks it into two words: .oxtapod (a cmene) and i (sentence separator). Even though I cannot find any rule in the reference grammar against brivla or fu'ivla beginning in a vowel, it confuses me that cmafi'e breaks the word into two ones. Could anyone explain?