From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon May 16 14:55:46 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 16 May 2005 14:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DXnYo-0000nt-Ob for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:55:38 -0700 Received: from n13a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.24]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DXnYm-0000n2-En for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:55:38 -0700 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=YsVGY7gkqjmZXXUBqdMZevliIAEbZYYT2zYxSb5UvW6t32T+eRXeDF+X1jW+j8b8aIz/xZXXR5a++YYF81QrTeYP//MEEklLvf65QaypdDxs+Jp9zcjRn0rlPPBDofWQ; Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n13.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 May 2005 21:55:00 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.31] by mailer4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 May 2005 21:55:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: bwirick@calpoly.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87886 invoked from network); 16 May 2005 21:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 May 2005 21:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n32.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.61) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2005 21:54:58 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n32.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 May 2005 21:54:15 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.89] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 May 2005 21:54:15 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.61 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 65.169.45.251 From: "brandon_wirick" X-Yahoo-Profile: brandon_wirick MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:54:12 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Unique Names Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9951 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: bwirick@calpoly.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Name uniqueness has been a classic problem, because certainty about a name's uniqueness requires long names, which is silly for conversations of few people. The whole idea behind hash-tables is that large numbers can be efficiently represented by smaller numbers if not all numbers are being used for a given domain. We already do this with names to a degree, (e.g. "Did you go to John's party?" "John who?" "John Doe." "Oh, no, I went to John Johnson's party.") but I imagine that Lojban would be perfect for making conventions like this that really work. I imagine that cmene will be unofficial in the same way that websites are unofficial. To register a website, one selects a top-level domain (e.g. com, org, net, etc.) and picks a domain name that has not yet been picked for that TLD, so it can be unique without being very regulated. In the same way, there can be many "lojbo cmene tutra," analogous to the Web's TLDs, and people could register groups of cmene under whichever ones they want (some might become more popular than others), and the owner of each group of cmene could specify as many unique cmene under that group as desired. This could be the next generation of jbovlaste or something. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/EA3HyD/3MnJAA/79vVAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/