From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jun 05 04:12:07 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 05 Jun 2005 04:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Det2c-0006Mo-0G for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 04:11:42 -0700 Received: from n24.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Det2B-0006M1-On for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 04:11:38 -0700 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=NjOz9ferTBEEDqL9JEJzcutYfTr068+ybiKtMhtbTercbUYIShOh1dy+dyOv8sOqdhUHCU6oLo72DLSyI0LS/pbmGzqff6SeMa1rHT36oZ/osSkgt5nuZkvMcPlr013S; Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n24.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2005 11:11:01 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.31] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2005 11:11:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 97005 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2005 11:10:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jun 2005 11:10:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web33408.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.206.140) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2005 11:10:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 22813 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jun 2005 11:10:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20050605111055.22811.qmail@web33408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [84.176.116.123] by web33408.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 04:10:54 PDT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 68.142.206.140 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Opi Lauma X-Yahoo-Profile: opi_lauma MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 04:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] How to say "depends"? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1465236173-1117969854=:19347" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10103 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0-1465236173-1117969854=:19347 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I have a trivial question which I cannot answer. How to say in Lojban “depends” (in physical or mathematical sence)? In the list of gismu I have found the following two possibilities. 1. lacri [ lac ] rely x1 relies/depends/counts on/trusts x2 to bring about/ensure/maintain x3 (event/state) 2. fancu [ ] function x1 is a function/single-valued mapping from domain x2 to range x3 defined by expression/rule x4 However the first one I do not like since it is related with such subjective terms as “relies” and “trusts”. The second option is problematic since fancu is a single-valued mapping and I need to describe many variable function. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1465236173-1117969854=:19347 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello,

 

I have a trivial question which I cannot answer. How to say in Lojban “depends” (in physical or mathematical sence)? In the list of gismu I have found the following two possibilities.


1. lacri [ lac ] rely

x1 relies/depends/counts on/trusts x2 to bring about/ensure/maintain x3 (event/state)


2. fancu [ ] function
x1 is a function/single-valued mapping from domain x2 to range x3 defined by expression/rule x4

 

However the first one I do not like since it is related with such subjective terms as “relies” and “trusts”. The second option is problematic since fancu is a single-valued mapping and I need to describe many variable function.

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