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From: John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [lojban] Re: How to say "depends"?
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Strictly speaking, I suppose "depend" is {te
fancu}: "range of values x1 depends on domain of
arguments x2 according to function x3 computed by
formula x4"  The third and fourth places seem
pretty much identical unless the function has a
name ("Bessel functions," say) which does not say
how it is computed.

--- John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> 
> --- Opi Lauma <opi_lauma@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I have a trivial question which I cannot
> > answer. How to say in Lojban “depends” (in
> > physical or mathematical sence)? In the list
> of
> > gismu I have found the following two
> > possibilities.
> > 
> > 
> > 1. lacri [ lac ] rely 
> > 
> > x1 relies/depends/counts on/trusts x2 to
> bring
> > about/ensure/maintain x3 (event/state) 
> > 
> > 
> > 2. fancu [ ] function 
> > x1 is a function/single-valued mapping from
> > domain x2 to range x3 defined by
> > expression/rule x4 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > However the first one I do not like since it
> is
> > related with such subjective terms as
> “relies”
> > and “trusts”. The second option is
> problematic
> > since fancu is a single-valued mapping and I
> > need to describe many variable function.
> > 
> I'm not perfectly sure what "single-valued
> mapping" intended but it probably should mean
> that for any given input -- which may have any
> number of components -- it yiields a unique
> output ("value").  So, the domain might be a
> set
> of ordered n-tuples, not just single items.  If
> that is what you want, a function from input to
> output, then {fancu} is probably your best
> word. 
> Or some compound of it, if there are details
> tht
> need special treatment.
> 
> 
> 
>