From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jun 09 07:46:34 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DgOIZ-0007zs-D2 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:46:23 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.203]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DgOIX-0007zk-8E for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:46:23 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so147943wri for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:46:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TU6N16ZJZTdelSIQcSLj3zqPr+ivfi0gEcBgkI2mXE1JAtVSs7PKfbY6mcW++uqPOpOec5ckhm3B7XOoDWfn6cdZ6Hf24iOxpSR5v89UiJFMJi7qMbduFxoGFUP1HlR2aOiwUUyPGudxGoPQL4QRr13dqDJLljUJkCBu0evtXf8= Received: by 10.54.32.15 with SMTP id f15mr390053wrf; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.20 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d1756050609074643100572@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:46:20 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: {lo}, {lu'o}, and {loi}. In-Reply-To: <20050609134124.20752.qmail@web33412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050609134124.20752.qmail@web33412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10116 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list {lu'o} and {loi} are essentially the same thing, the only difference is that one takes a selbri and the other a sumti: lu'o ko'a = lo gunma be ko'a loi broda = lo gunma be lo broda In both cases, the referents of {ko'a} or the brodas are said to do something together. loi ci nanmu cu bevri le pipno Three men (together) carry the piano. If {ko'a} refers to Andy, Barry and Chris, then lu'o ko'a cu bevri le pipno says that they carried the piano together. mu'o mi'e xorxes