From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jun 10 11:04:12 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DgnrP-0005yk-Fv for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:04:03 -0700 Received: from web81304.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.79]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DgnrL-0005yZ-Bh for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:04:03 -0700 Received: (qmail 19302 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2005 18:03:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20050610180357.19300.qmail@web81304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.69.50.91] by web81304.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:03:57 PDT Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:03:57 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban for Beginners lesson 12 answers To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <42A9B824.3040809@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10125 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- "Aleksej R. Serdyukov" wrote: > Exercise 2: > 1. Moscow > > (St. Petersburg [sanktˈpɛtɛrspurg], > > I guess it is how it sounds in English? Why > Moscow is more like in > Russian, then? > At least in Moscow pronunciation, it will be: > [ˌsankt̆pʲetʲerˈburk] English is (in Lojban transcription -- I can't produce or read whatever these marks are) /seint pitrsbrg/ more or less (this is almost surely not a legitimate Lojban name). The Lojban name should be as close as possible to the native name, so, I gather /maskfa/ (with some consonant on the end) or is it more /moskfa/ (with the lower "aw" /o/)(sorry about not allowing /kv/, which many languages have)? Is the native name of the other place really Saint Petersburg or is it Petrograd, which would introduce a whole other set of issues? And how widely variant are the dialects of the two cities (we should follow the local one, I suppose)? > > Moscow [məsˈkfa]) > > [məsˈkva] > Sounds don't change in "кв"/"kv". > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > What would our lives be like without music, > dance, and theater? > Donate or volunteer in the arts today at > Network for Good! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/TzSHvD/SOnJAA/79vVAA/GSaulB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to > lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > >