From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jun 16 04:27:06 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DisWI-0003pU-Tc for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:26:51 -0700 Received: from n8.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com ([216.155.201.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DisW6-0003o9-Ke for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:26:50 -0700 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=pZyX+xcDylwzYF7hDOAQ97g+xzr01m51EGjINsQIkXh6iWt+pWZxbEBQb2buTgqIXtUJMH2gXdOm+s49ufsdbPkwbH9d69hanrR/8T0Ic4+bFja6uURun8I3xQTBlzMA; Received: from [216.155.201.65] by n8.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2005 11:26:03 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.1] by mailer2.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2005 11:26:03 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.34] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2005 11:26:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 8055 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2005 11:26:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jun 2005 11:26:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web33410.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.206.142) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2005 11:26:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 80191 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jun 2005 11:25:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20050616112557.80189.qmail@web33410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.2.216.130] by web33410.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:25:57 PDT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 68.142.206.142 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Opi Lauma X-Yahoo-Profile: opi_lauma MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Again {xorlo} and Wiki. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10181 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Hi, on the Lojban-Wiki I have found the following: A side effect of the above is that in xorlo, if you mean "one bear", consider actually saying "pa cribe". It's ever so much more specific. xorxes points out that to refer to one bear, "lo pa cribe" is actually a bit better; "pa cribe cu broda" means that exactly one cribe in the whole world brodas, which is often not what you want. We (those of us that have actually been using xorlo for the last few months; there are at least half a dozen active users on #lojban now) have found that context is almost always sufficient, however. And it is opposite to what I understood from answers on one of the my previous postings: {pa cribe} = {pa lo cribe} = “an bear”. and opposite to what I understood from lessons of Nick Nicholas: {lo pa cribe} means that there exists only one bear in the world. Where is true? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/