From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jun 23 00:53:59 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DlMWl-0007Un-6I for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:53:37 -0700 Received: from n24.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DlMWi-0007UM-IZ for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:53:34 -0700 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=qLMYzMW1PmwTiWQMMM87irJINV3kmqE2FdrwNok2iPwJurz0s2lLKCGT9xVK/Wdure3kR6CTjBb4c0OdZQ9a4ez4bAGuS7Pkg3ZqTCLYA1cOSTXOAwTZacQEtkxpA11Q; Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n24.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2005 07:53:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.33] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2005 07:53:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 32166 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 07:53:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Jun 2005 07:53:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web33405.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.206.137) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 07:53:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 82040 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jun 2005 07:53:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20050623075306.82038.qmail@web33405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.2.216.130] by web33405.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:53:06 PDT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 68.142.206.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Opi Lauma X-Yahoo-Profile: opi_lauma MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: Supplicatory Model: "under conditions". Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10242 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > 2. The x4 of zgana describes those conditions that must > be in place for the bridi to be true. Usually, I think, one does not imply that filled arguments of selbri are conditions that MUST be in place for bridi to be true. It means that bridi can be true if we replace given argument by another one. So why do we need to think that zgana is exception from rooles? So x4 should be understand just as "condition under whcih" x1 observe x2. And it should not mean that under another conditions x1 can observe x2. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/