From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jun 23 01:30:41 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DlN6W-00080W-Fy for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:30:32 -0700 Received: from n2.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com ([216.155.201.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DlN6U-000805-85 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:30:32 -0700 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=iJ7VZ1KKX+PC1Nsk+YHIpvWay+FRoBGOfJf5HK+33TTHeAXSr92oaul+T2hpocwO6+k7n7YGvUzhPgJ1zGzu/KwIjRV7i2FCnJBb4NiGg5Oob2A459RoC/mOnDcxJr1m; Received: from [216.155.201.64] by n2.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2005 08:30:25 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.59] by mailer1.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2005 08:30:25 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.35] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2005 08:30:24 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 50932 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 08:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Jun 2005 08:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.40) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 08:30:23 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n6.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2005 08:30:15 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.89] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2005 08:30:15 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050623075306.82038.qmail@web33405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.40 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 141.2.216.130 From: "opi_lauma" X-Yahoo-Profile: opi_lauma MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:30:13 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: Supplicatory Model: "under conditions". Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10243 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- In lojban@yahoogroups.com, Opi Lauma wrote: > > 2. The x4 of zgana describes those conditions that > must > be in place for the bridi to be true. > Usually, I think, one does not imply that filled > arguments of selbri are conditions that MUST be in > place for bridi to be true. It means that bridi can be > true if we replace given argument by another one. So > why do we need to think that zgana is exception from > rooles? So x4 should be understand just as "condition > under whcih" x1 observe x2. And it should not mean > that under another conditions x1 can observe x2. I wanted to say "And it should NOT mean that under another conditions x1 canNOT observe x2." To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/