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From: John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [lojban] Re: lojban logo
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--- xah lee <xah@xahlee.org> wrote:

> i just want to voice this again:
> 
> the lojban logo is really truly hideous.
> 
> it makes lojban like a fucking joke by the
> OpenSource know-nothing 
> star-trekking tech-geeking morons.
> 
> I find lojban a significant scientific pursuit.
> But its logo, and now 
> with the joe-blog look of the official website,
> really makes me ashamed 
> to associated with it.
> 
> If the lojban org cannot have a professional
> logo, please at least 
> don't use a juvenile one. It is better to have
> no logo than that.
> 
>   Xah
>   xah@xahlee.org

Gee, I kinda like it.  What specifically is wrong
with it and what would you recommend to improve
it (aside from doing without a logo altogether)? 
It was the result of a contest (for which there
were not a lot of entires, admittedly) which it
won handily, so it seems to represent the best
thought and wishes of the membership at a certain
not to far past time.  But it is now, so mayhap
we need a new look for a new century (or some
such sloganny line) -- though I confess that I
see other things as being more pressing. (Would a
detailed expalanaton of the logo's meaning help
make it more appealing?)


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