From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Aug 15 12:17:18 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E4kSK-0002dp-H7 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:17:08 -0700 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E4kSF-0002dX-LM for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:17:08 -0700 Received: from p54A081A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.160.129.161] (helo=[192.168.178.21]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1E4kSD2Yuq-0003dg; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:17:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4300EA30.2020409@online.de> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:17:04 +0200 From: klaus schmirler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050728 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Loglish: A Modest Proposal References: <925d175605081510036adc23a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d175605081510036adc23a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:5e2e22a5d422cd51ce0171a884c92cf6 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10371 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: KSchmir@online.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 8/15/05, Ben Goertzel wrote: > >>As an example of the algorithms I described in my prior mail, suppose >>someone says >> >>"Ben murder chicken pliers quu weapon" >> >>This means that "Ben murders chickens using pliers as a weapon" >> > > > Wouldn't you need: > > la Ben cu murder lo chicken lo pliers quu weapon > > ? Otherwise, it might be taken to mean "Ben is a murderous chicken > using pliers as a weapon" or "Ben is a murderously chickeny > pliers-as-a-weapon" or "Lo! there's Ben type-of murderously chickeny > pliers-as-aweapon!" or something else. (I'm not sure if names > can be recognized as sumti in Loglish even without {la}, or whether > "pliers quu weapon" can be taken as a sumti even without a gadri. > You might also need to distinguish "chicken quu animal" from > "chicken quu coward".) I think the straightforward reading is Ben murdering chicken pliers. klaus To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.