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On 8/16/05, Ben Goertzel <ben@goertzel.org> wrote:
> For instance, I was thinking about something like a "queh"
> reference-indicator, to be used as in
> 
> "Lo man go lo playground.  It queh man kill lo dog.  It eat lo cat."
> 
> ("The man goes to the playground.  He kills the dog.  He eats the cat.")

I think you need {cu} in front of "go" and "kill", otherwise
you get tanru: "lo man go" would be "the man goer" and
"man kill" would be "man killer".

Also "go" could be confused with the cmavo {go}.
 
> The idea here is that "it" is used as a generic referential indicator, but
> "queh" is used to precede a qualitative indicator of what the "it" refers
> back to.  Then, subsequent uses of "it" are assumed to keep referring back
> to the same referent, until another use of "it" coupled with "queh"
> ooccurs...

That's just how Lojban {goi} works.

Lojban also has {fi'o}, which is just like your "quu", except 
for word order: "lo pliers quu weapon" = {fi'o -weapon lo -pliers} 
(or rather {fi'o xarci lo cinza}.)

And while {zei} is not exactly the same as "qui", since you
don't have lujvo in Loglish you could use it for that.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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