From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 18 12:12:32 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E5poL-00077f-9I for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:12:21 -0700 Received: from hobbiton.shire.net ([166.70.252.250]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E5poD-00077O-8l for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:12:21 -0700 Received: from [69.236.65.18] (helo=[192.168.1.5]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1E5poB-0003Ni-5U for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:12:11 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <20050816204617.GR20034@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <43003745.5040005@gulik.co.nz> <20050816204617.GR20034@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Message-Id: <4bf274db71f6a0cc5d2136f9333ad0f3@xahlee.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis From: xah lee Subject: [lojban] Re: Probation (was Re: Re: tone of letter) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:12:07 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 69.236.65.18 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: xah@xahlee.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10407 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xah@xahlee.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Folks, look at this highness, who has the verve to declare me “ON PROBATION!!” in public. Let's do a little behavioral analysis, from which, we can get a glimpse of a human animal's heart. If a moderator did consider a member overboard, she can send a private warning. If the act is egregious such as spam, the moderator can ban the guy outright. but a righteous OpenSourcer will come forth with judiciousness and leniency and declare a “probation”! Look at the attachment: “Consider yourself on probation for the INDEFINATE FUTURE” Such a kindness and decisiveness. And look: “... you will be banned from this list, and ALL OTHERS I RUN.” Such encompassing consideration. Look at this commandeering rub-in: “Just For The Record: Not changing the logo.”! as i have alluded to before, the drive behind behaviors such as this is a power struggle. An instinctive kind of show off to see who's the boss, esp by ones who posses power and can wield it in a popular way in the name of good deeds. Folks, if you never experienced politics, this is a firsthand show. Dear Robin Lee Powell — Secretary and webmaster of Logical Language Group Inc, if there is an epitome representing the worst aspects of OpenSourcers, you'd be the one. Consider this as a gift of judgement from me to you based on our acquaintance. Xah xah@xahlee.org ∑ http://xahlee.org/ On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:46 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 06:33:41PM +1200, Michael van der Gulik wrote: > MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 8/14/2005 5:22:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, >> ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: >> >> >>> PS This message is not directed at any individual, and i have >>> not one person in the lojban community in which i hold grudge. >> >> Perhaps you have no grudge against anyone in particular, but the >> tone of your emails about the logo is revolting. It reads like >> an attack on all of us, despite your disclaimer. The insults >> ("morons") and foul language ("fuck", "shit") do not help you at >> all. >> > I second that. I'm not planning to take part in a thread that > starts like that, but I am going to protest against the language > and tone used. That's two explicit complaints. The first we've had in years, if ever. Not Cool. Xah, please consider yourself on probation. If anyone else complains (whether publically or privately to me) about your rudeness in any posts you make after this one, you will be banned from this list, and all others I run. Consider yourself on probation for the indefinate future. -Robin, LLG Secretary -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ ☄ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.