From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 18 15:34:35 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E5sxt-0001ND-1r for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:34:25 -0700 Received: from [208.234.8.229] (helo=intelligenesiscorp.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E5sxo-0001N5-1A for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:34:24 -0700 Received: from zombiethustra (pcp06586041pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net [69.140.24.121]) by intelligenesiscorp.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j7IMYFMt021716 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:34:16 -0400 From: "Ben Goertzel" To: Subject: [lojban] Re: Probation (was Re: Re: tone of letter) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:34:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4bf274db71f6a0cc5d2136f9333ad0f3@xahlee.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10409 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ben@goertzel.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > Dear Robin Lee Powell — Secretary and webmaster of Logical Language > Group Inc, if there is an epitome representing the worst aspects of > OpenSourcers, you'd be the one. Consider this as a gift of judgement > from me to you based on our acquaintance. > > Xah > xah@xahlee.org Well, I don't know Robin personally, but based on my e-mail interchanges with him, I've found him to be a really nice guy as well as extremely intelligent and talented; and I see that he's contributed a hell of a lot to the Lojban project, which I much appreciate. I *wish* Robin were one of the worst of the "Open-Sourcers", because in that case the Open Source community would be a damn wonderful place!! You may be right that Robin's email regarding your probation on the lojban list was a little too extreme -- "indefinite probation" isn't really a good policy, IMO; probation should probably come with a time limit. However, even if you're right and his reaction to your annoying and useless obnoxiousness was slightly extreme, this in no way justifies your overly harsh and entirely incorrect judgment of him. I don't know what you're like in the real world, but on this list you are being one heck of a jerk... -- Ben Goertzel To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.