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On 8/23/05, Brandon Wirick <brandon.wirick@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Really? CLL ch. 4 says that no fu'ivla can be "any combination of
> cmavo, gismu, and lujvo." 

That's correct. But notice that gismu and lujvo include stress
as part of their definition. {setcati} cannot be read as {setca ti},
it is necessarily {se tcati}, because of the penultimate stress.
And you know that the "a" there is stressed because of the 
space (or end of text) after {setcati}.

> Since {menlibazimakcu} is a combination of
> {menli ba zi makcu}, 

No, because  the "e" of {menli} is not stressed, so it is 
just part of a fu'ivla. No gismu there.

doesn't that make it a non-fu'ivla? I was under
> the impression that white space is optional, (which makes short Lojban
> phrases look really cool in my opinion,) but I am certainly open to
> correction.

White space is optional as long as stress is indicated,
otherwise, the white space at the end of a brivla is 
itself the indicator of stress and can't be omitted. That's 
why I said {lekomEnlibazimakcu} was also a possibility.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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