From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 07 11:18:45 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ED4VH-0000Sz-QP for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:18:35 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.192]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ED4VE-0000Ss-7m for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:18:35 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i32so1067255wra for ; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:18:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=R31a14rcEAp6XbYUOGccKF7mPz6DtexEubVZ/O92Jp68uwHQDM8m2rX3EN1Y9dizGG4H2Z35s5t336PwXvgN4fRA5dC76jhBI+ccK8kFRHRCezB1oSknFRRrbVDvtB1E6ONTFzqc3ONEY0aRm6jkdxCqS7iIpTKFZD0gtOip/WM= Received: by 10.54.33.26 with SMTP id g26mr5335150wrg; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.140.6 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 14:18:29 -0400 From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Orthography In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21322_15063763.1126117109547" References: <20050906180104.83509.qmail@web81307.mail.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 10528 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_21322_15063763.1126117109547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Christopher. Can you direct me to reference material about this?=20 I'm especially appreciative for the term 7SD, since I didn't like any of th= e=20 phrases I was using to name it. However, as long as we have a chart which works for us to communicate with= =20 each other while selecting characters, and the numbers we use will not be= =20 included in the finished orthography, I don't think it's sufficiently=20 important to remake the chart. -epkat On 9/7/05, Christopher Zervic wrote: >=20 > There already exists a standard notation for the segments of the > seven-segment display (7SD), (which is really what we are talking > about, not necessarily LED, LCD or even anything illuminated or > electronic): >=20 > A (top) > B (upper right) > C (lower right) > D (bottom) > E (lower left) > F (upper left) > G (middle) > and the '8th segment' =3D DP (decimal point) >=20 > 1 =3D BC > 2 =3D ABDEG > 3 =3D ABCDG > 4 =3D BCFG > 5 =3D ACDFG > 6 =3D ACDEFG > 7 =3D ABC > 8 =3D ABCDEFG > 9 =3D ABCDFG > 0 =3D ABCDEF >=20 > So far I like what I read in this thread, although it remains yet to > see whether it proves to be practical, since Lojban already has > perfect orthographic mapping. Nevertheless the suggested alphabet > could draw inspiration from the Shaw Alphabet (q.v.), and be practical > for English as well. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 9/6/05, Matt Arnold wrote: > > Here's the complete chart of LCD characters in binary order. I'll make > > further revisions if you find errors. > > http://www.nemorathwald.com/lojban/LCD_binary_chart.jpg > > -epkat > -- > Christopher Zervic, Esq. >=20 >=20 > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.or= g > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. >=20 > ------=_Part_21322_15063763.1126117109547 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Christopher. Can you direct me to reference material about this? I'm especially appreciative for the term 7SD, since I didn't like any of th= e phrases I was using to name it.
However, as long as we have a chart which works for us to communicate with each other while selecting characters, and the numbers we use will not be included in the finished orthography, I don't think it's sufficiently important to remake the chart.
-epkat

On 9/7/05, Christopher Zervic <zervic@gmail.com> wrote:
There already exists a standard notation for the segments of the
seven-s= egment display (7SD), (which is really what we are talking
about, not ne= cessarily LED, LCD or even anything illuminated or
electronic):

A (top)
B (upper right)
C (lower right)
D (bottom)
E (lower lef= t)
F (upper left)
G (middle)
and the '8th segment' =3D DP (decimal= point)

1 =3D BC
2 =3D ABDEG
3 =3D ABCDG
4 =3D BCFG
5 = =3D ACDFG
6 =3D ACDEFG
7 =3D ABC
8 =3D ABCDEFG
9 =3D ABCDFG
0 =3D ABCDEF<= br>
So far I like what I read in this thread, although it remains yet to=
see whether it proves to be practical, since Lojban already has
perf= ect orthographic mapping. Nevertheless the suggested alphabet
could draw inspiration from the Shaw Alphabet (q.v.), and be practical<= br>for English as well.



On 9/6/05, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote: > Here's the complete chart of LCD characters in binary order. I'll make=
> further revisions if you find errors.
>  http://www.nem= orathwald.com/lojban/LCD_binary_chart.jpg
>  -epkat
--
Christopher Zervic, Esq.

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