From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 08 15:17:32 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EDUhu-0002Du-Vi for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:17:23 -0700 Received: from phma.hn.org ([216.189.113.165] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EDUhs-0002Dl-Eq for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 15:17:22 -0700 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D17EB619; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:17:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: a very difficult translation Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:17:30 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509081817.31255.phma@phma.hn.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 10541 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.hn.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Thursday 08 September 2005 16:43, Matt Arnold wrote: > Here's another toughie for me later in the same text, since I find tenses > difficult. > "he saw his ship, and upon her prow the mariners." > The spatial tense of "upon this was that" is what's throwing me. When I > try: {.i ko'a viska leko'a bloti .e lobu'u bloti nazbi lo bende} > Jbofi'e tells me the phrase "upon the boat nose" is not being applied to > "crew" but treated as its own sumti, which causes {lo bende} to be treated > as x3. Most variations I've tested have resulted in jbofi'e giving me no > output at all. Try {lo bende be bu'u le bloti nazbi}. Though I think that it should be a lujvo, {blozbi}. phma To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.