From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 15 00:34:23 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EFoG4-00062Z-SS for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:34:12 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EFoG2-00062R-8X for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:34:12 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c3so138405nze for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:34:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=lyo9QcDJCcOsnj6B4JukreCyJLfL6fkNSz6D2E6YcwTtEc+pEPmh7q7/KuQDLiL2pcL45spgmNSYzDqmNnnIrTMaAZcj1tokLiAuFDi1ZY5hEN3cDHfg8q8NkRxv/Kn96eJrZLPe7MCsDJ7N/i0pVOrdiM6YttWzzxRTjydeToA= Received: by 10.36.96.5 with SMTP id t5mr2470688nzb; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.8 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8f2fd4aa05091500343852e987@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:34:05 -0700 From: Brandon Wirick To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Wheels in my Head Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10594 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: brandon@yrick.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I really am working on the program to visualize 7SD characters in a Lojban context; don't anyone think I've put that on the back-burner. I have, however, come up with yet another fun and mostly useless idea. I would like to devise a ray to represent every conceivable Lojban syllable in exactly two bytes apiece (I'm counting a consonant followed by a {denpa bu} as a syllable). The way I've broken it up in my mind is into four nybbles (four-bit numbers for those non-computer people). Nybble #1 would include the voiced and unvoiced consonant pairs (not {ly}, {my}, {ny}, or {ry}, and I don't know about {xy}) and a null sound. Nybble #0 would precede Nybble #1 with any consonant or a null sound (maybe a {slaka bu}, but Nybble #1 would set the voice, so Nybble #0 in both {tca} and {dja} would be the same (a sort of {ty}-{dy} pair) but Nybble #1 would differ. Nybble #2 could include the consonants {ly}, {my}, {ny}, or {ry}; the vowels {ibu} or {ubu}; any vowel followed by {y'y}; a {denpa bu}; or a null sound Nybble #3 could include any vowel, lowercase or capitalized, or one of the diphthongs {ai}, {au}, {ei}, or {oi}. Some Nybble combinations would not be allowed, like those that result in double letters, but the point is to cover the set of Lojban syllables. This system is not perfect, so I'm open to suggestions, but it probably won't serve any practical purpose, so feel free to ignore this if you don't care. mu'omi'e.uirik. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.