From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 15 19:31:35 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EG60b-0008RY-V1 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:31:26 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.206]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EG60V-0008RQ-Kj for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:31:25 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so1896nzf for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:31:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jnfZjr+toZjXrLoPtsKz8K23/b+xMnbzSV+EkAd6yOF9FfZUxOsbUjm5Koc6KOUsTAcs+ND0AEzpreRW+WeXf+HNmdd8g7EP+hoBw67BfliPcCLQ0A5PMW2pOcGDWcuhRrcgUPTeMB7XGoEl3yW4QYXxogUI4ZMH9QBK5jMTAYA= Received: by 10.37.22.80 with SMTP id z80mr91785nzi; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.8 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8f2fd4aa0509151931507cdc42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:31:14 -0700 From: Brandon Wirick To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Wheels in my Head In-Reply-To: <925d175605091518303b4b7bb2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <8f2fd4aa05091500343852e987@mail.gmail.com> <200509151546.42138.phma@phma.hn.org> <8f2fd4aa05091514151b3f6cb7@mail.gmail.com> <8f2fd4aa05091514431061dd5b@mail.gmail.com> <925d175605091518303b4b7bb2@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10603 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: brandon@yrick.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > If you stress the first A you get two words: bangrspe ranto. Okay, so what's it supposed to be, {bangrsperAnto}? I know it would not be necessary, but I'm going for a space-less, unambiguously emphasized representation. > How would you do {limna}? What about {retsku}? {limna} is easy, although it nullifies my comment that {my} and {ny} would be unnecessary in nybble#2: "-,li|m,na" {retsku} is not so easy, because the {tsk} cluster needs to be broken up somehow. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it permissible to assume a very short {ybu} between {ty} and {sy} in this case? If so, then I can either represent {retsku} as "-,re|-t-y|sk-u" or "-,re|-t--|sk-u" Thoughts on this? Would this facilitate or hinder understanding of Lojban syllables? Also, wouldn't this be a great format for synthetic Lojban speech programs? What other words seem troublesome? mu'omi'e.uirik. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.