From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 19 12:53:00 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EHRh5-00087x-5X for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:52:51 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EHRgx-00087q-Lq for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:52:51 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so237859nzf for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UKE7+ttGycW2k6eemZ2mNbviQhS9+Eo98Suq9fGh3E10hu8we+at4GY1gfcysMwYuoACTQZM7fpL/po1+RsRvkHnXFPndanKj8/JoC5+sdZkD05zwQ8tMVyNtCxRWpEg/Ffm4czC6aJ4ZmO78rcLrDZ4TArMzbPbL+FxNPzW58U= Received: by 10.54.23.9 with SMTP id 9mr1282706wrw; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d175605091912523f60e105@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:52:38 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Wheels in my Head In-Reply-To: <8f2fd4aa050919121768d577a1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <8f2fd4aa05091500343852e987@mail.gmail.com> <200509151546.42138.phma@phma.hn.org> <8f2fd4aa05091514151b3f6cb7@mail.gmail.com> <8f2fd4aa05091514431061dd5b@mail.gmail.com> <925d175605091518303b4b7bb2@mail.gmail.com> <8f2fd4aa0509151931507cdc42@mail.gmail.com> <925d1756050916175611735157@mail.gmail.com> <8f2fd4aa050919121768d577a1@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10614 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 9/19/05, Brandon Wirick wrote: > This is great! I had no idea such work existed. My task will be > difficult, however, to sensibly encode these syllables into sixteen > bits. Dificult, yes. With 17 bits, the most complex type could be encoded as: 1 bit: stressed, unstressed 1 bit: voiced onset, unvoiced onset 2 bits: -, c/j, s/z 3 bits: -, p/b, k/g, t/d, f/v, x, m, n 2 bits: -, l, r 4 bits: a, e, i, o, u, ai, au, ei, oi, y 4 bits: -, c/j, s/z, p/b, k/g, t/d, f/v, x, m, n, l, r (the voicedness of the coda is determined by the voiceness of the following syllable, not by that of the onset, obviously.) Then the other types of syllables, which are simpler, can be encoded in the holes left by this scheme. But 16 bits... it seems hard. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.