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--- Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/23/05, Jorge Llambías
> <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > mu'i le nu le'i se kecti pinfu
> > > for the poor prisoners
> >
> > I would say {lei} or {le} instead of {le'i},
> since mathematical
> > sets can't really be free or not free.
> >
> 
> I thought le'i meant "the set of those
> described".

It does, but (Canotorean) sets rarely have the
properties of their members and, in particular,
they are not the sort of things that can be free
(or bound, or up above, for that matter).

> That may be enough, but if you want to be more
> literal
> > maybe something like {cu co'a zifre gau} to
> indicate that
> > they are set free and not just that they
> start to be free.
> >
> >
> 



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