From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Oct 02 03:19:45 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 02 Oct 2005 03:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EM0wF-0008O4-5V for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 03:19:24 -0700 Received: from mta02.mx.cix.co.uk ([212.241.168.132]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EM0w7-0008Nu-O2 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 03:19:19 -0700 X-Envelope-From: lojban@solipsys.co.uk Received: from Q.composers (solipsys.compulink.co.uk [194.153.10.165]) by mta02.mx.cix.co.uk (8.13.4/CIX/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j92AJBws005664; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 11:19:12 +0100 Received: from Q (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Q.composers (8.12.6/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id j92AI64k001370; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 11:18:06 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: lojban@solipsys.co.uk To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: {lo} down Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 11:18:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Cc: lojban@solipsys.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Message-Id: <200510021118.04892.lojban@solipsys.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS - amavis-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-SpamChance: 0.000000 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10702 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojban@solipsys.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list >> Two people using thousands of words arguing >> between themselves on a >> public list when *no-one else* has participated >> is "crap". The >> subject is irrelevant. > Well, anyone is welcome to participate and I > would have thought that anyone who was concerned > about the language would want to, since the > subject, {lo}, is one of the most pervasive in > the language. I would love to join in, I really would, but with thousands of words in the exchange, references to "Mr Mr Talk", comments about earlier material no longer being accesialbe, and the whole thing having the decided air of bickering about it, I don't know where to start. For someone who basically left the lojban project 8 years or more ago because of this type of bickering, would you care to point me to a clear exposition aimed at non-linguists of the issues? Fer reference, I reemmber that the problem centred on "le" meaning "the thing I choose to describe as" and "lo" originally meaning"the thing that really is" The problem is then one of the philosophical issues of knowledge and "being". Any advance on that? What is "xorlo"? -- http://www.solipsys.co.uk/new/JugglingTalk.html - mailto:juggler@solipsys.co.uk Jugglito ergo sum To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.