From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Oct 28 11:39:54 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EVZ8e-00028M-D0 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:39:40 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.205]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EVZ8b-00028F-HZ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:39:40 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so258136wri for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:39:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P7Y73Jg1nJNnUe2lwRtlcg3Z2S09wNcweCEysQ62nkz9VTUL0HsBtE6t2mrKNBTmMNKnm16i5Z1w9Clgc7tOnMhNgn2tJae/jQKr6TrvWB0WezaVrxRtXFv+d2qpHTso3P7v12h4Q+d8UNFh0goaktmLjN5zRVuOSdpGy38VuuA= Received: by 10.54.115.3 with SMTP id n3mr305484wrc; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560510281139g37adf21cta7dabb247fb1ba61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:39:36 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: citri lo glibau In-Reply-To: <12d58c160510280915x764d9b8du4ba3f9a68d9742e1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <12d58c160510280915x764d9b8du4ba3f9a68d9742e1@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10733 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 10/28/05, Adam COOPER wrote: > pi so'i lo selbau cu ke se sadgunta je tolselctu ke'e natmrkamri > tercange ke-ke'e is redundant here because the grouping it provides is the default grouping: ( (ke se sadgunta je tolselctu ke'e) natmrkamri ) tercange Perhaps you meant: (se sadgunta je tolselctu) (ke natmrkamri tercange [ke'e]) which would sound more like in English. It is not very clear to me though why any grouping is necessary, since at least in a naive logical view the meaning is: se sadgunta je tolsectu je natmrkamri je tercange One wouldn't say it like that in English, but I can't quite put my finger on why not. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.