From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Nov 08 08:05:46 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:05:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EZVya-0000cG-TX for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:05:37 -0800 Received: from sp0135.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.135] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EZVyZ-0000c8-JX for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:05:36 -0800 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (82.13.21.190) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.0.038) (authenticated as josephine.shewellbrockway) id 432A19D200C0B195 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:05:25 +0000 Message-ID: <4370CCC3.1010502@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:05:23 +0000 From: Jessica User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051011) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban translation of English "we" References: <149.51471478.30a20146@wmconnect.com> In-Reply-To: <149.51471478.30a20146@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-archive-position: 10763 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: j.shewellbrockway@virgin.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list 'We' always means one of the following: We, the speakers (mi) We, the speaker(s) and you, the listener(s) (mi'o) We, the speaker(s) and at least one person other than the speaker(s) and listener(s) (mi'a) We, the speaker(s), you the listener(s) and at least one person other than the speaker(s) and listener(s) (ma'a) While the listener may not know which is intended, the speaker does. In your example, "This is our street," you aren't including the listener. This would be rendered into lojban as {.i ti kluji pe mi'a}. Apologies if I have misused {pe}. fe'omi'e JEsikas. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.