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From: John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [lojban] Re: A Proposed Explanation of {gunma}
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--- Robin Lee Powell
<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 08:23:23AM -0800, John
> E Clifford wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- Robin Lee Powell
> > <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 04:38:56PM -0800,
> John
> > > E Clifford wrote:
> > > > The talk about the place structure of
> {gunma} and the
> > > > subsequent expansions on that got me
> wondering just what a
> > > > gunma, a "mass," is. 
> > > 
> > > The current belief is that it's what McKay
> calls a plural.  See
> > > http://philosophy.syr.edu/mckay.html
> > 
> > Yours but probably not xorxes'; McKay's
> plurals are one reading of
> > bunches.
> 
> xorxes has stated the opposite: that McKay's
> plurals are *not*
> bunches.  I'm sure he's read it more carefully
> than I am, so maybe
> he could speak up?

Yes, that would be nice.  I assume that he
objects to the reification that seems to be
involved in the use of a term like "bunch."  But
the *entity* is inessential so long as whatever
we are talking about has a relation like "in"
("among" in McKay) with all the relevant
properties.  


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