From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 15 16:13:17 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1En3DT-0000St-O6 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:12:55 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1En3DR-0000Sj-Bb for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:12:55 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so481888wri for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:12:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=N8o1L39GgQLrLVbG23I5r5Cm4DiVoHwi2pUwWBt0iej7Mo0L2AdZff0SQsSrDQzi46bfHqQPf5K+MyFWk5OFUVpl7DGqctvsUu7Ijbb4rtA/pc1uHNbSHt6RcjSO1FdFooSmXIkQ326h4t8kIfxFhOzuoYKP8n/GUyOArafKxOM= Received: by 10.54.69.8 with SMTP id r8mr2048116wra; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.1 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:12:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560512151612i759f0064s501b4ff60e0c04f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:12:52 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: A Proposed Explanation of {gunma} In-Reply-To: <20051215204024.40288.qmail@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560512151145h38ac9313jf199d67d61e0e047@mail.gmail.com> <20051215204024.40288.qmail@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10903 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 12/15/05, John E Clifford wrote: > --- Jorge Llambías wrote: > > On 12/15/05, John E Clifford > > > and as > > > above "John and Mary (separately) picked up > > tools > > > and (together) started to build a house." > > > > Right, this one requires splitting into two > > sentences. > > As a practical matter for the construction of a > language to be used, it would be nice (though > probably not essential) to do this in another way > that was more flexible. For a new language, yes. For Lojban, I don't really see how. I think in practice such precision is not normally needed, and when it is needed it can always be done the long way. It might also be more > accurate, since what is involved is not different > things but different ways they are being > predicated of, so putting the mark of distinction > on the thing-referrer is misleading. Indeed. That's one of the reasons I hardly ever use anything other than lo/le/la these days. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.