From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Mar 22 09:21:16 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FM711-0008H3-0r for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:20:59 -0800 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FM70x-0008Gu-PF for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:20:58 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so219760nzf for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:20:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=mYZVuBZnF3pUKhUF78z+ptI+5nKkkjebGvMXFMpr9M8ujTTPcrJFuz23rEkb4ZvOev677RXMGHB86CLGaC6LQxuyz2XQwaBQZIxrNgAUg7TwhC6HLPvSsOrACWLoXs32S0IXwYYDqmUUYFXsEi7VzIX2rAfRZvmZYphFyPkoNi4= Received: by 10.36.37.8 with SMTP id k8mr1698834nzk; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from caroe1 ( [65.218.132.157]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 18sm1186060nzo.2006.03.22.09.20.53; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:20:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <070f01c64dd4$de1c9b20$a0d2400a@caroe1> From: "Betsemes" To: References: <06bc01c64dc3$3be85080$a0d2400a@caroe1> <200603221115.38252.phma@phma.optus.nu> Subject: [lojban] Re: A comment on one of my jboselkei translations Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:20:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_070C_01C64DB3.547B76A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-archive-position: 11221 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: betsemes@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_070C_01C64DB3.547B76A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So then a better translation would read {mi pu viska lo lunbe nixli pa'o = lo canko be le ragve dinju ca le cabycerni} ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matt Arnold=20 To: lojban-list@lojban.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: [lojban] Re: A comment on one of my jboselkei translations On 3/22/06, Pierre Abbat wrote: > I also didn't think that a past tense tag was necessary because of = the {ca > le cabycerni} tense sumti. Am I wrong? It isn't necessary. It isn't necessary even without it; tense is = optional in Lojban.=20 Tense is optional in texts written originally in Lojban, but the = English to be translated was asking for it. -epkat ------=_NextPart_000_070C_01C64DB3.547B76A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So then a better translation would read = {mi pu viska lo lunbe nixli pa'o lo = canko be le=20 ragve dinju
ca le cabycerni}
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matt=20 Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 = 12:27=20 PM
Subject: [lojban] Re: A comment = on one of=20 my jboselkei translations

On 3/22/06, Pierre = Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

>=20 I also didn't think that a past tense tag was necessary because of = the=20 {ca
> le cabycerni} tense sumti. Am I wrong?

It isn't=20 necessary. It isn't necessary even without it; tense is optional=20 in
Lojban.

Tense is optional in texts written originally in Lojban, but = the=20 English to be translated was asking for=20 it.
-epkat

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