From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 24 07:19:43 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FMo4S-0007Km-Ai for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:24 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.226]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FMo4Q-0007Kf-6B for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:24 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so779249wra for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kmriqIfRcosqNyHUINEuY8S46hhv8TwO2hcNx+LDjkUC9XGNpBGaOWfXGEy0NepaeYlu5iIkeCArkPXIuvItrvcmpzmfmejKK4flleAGqm7j/FXlMZWHmtQZI6Br9mWcHRGrfV+lIijPwrCKvo7DO760lVcy/V0toQu5QeikwKc= Received: by 10.54.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr611208wrb; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:19:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560603240719r61870627q432fa442b0f35a7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:19:20 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: semantic primes can define anything In-Reply-To: <354.88d7f3.31553c77@wmconnect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <354.88d7f3.31553c77@wmconnect.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11235 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 3/24/06, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > And yet this is precisely Wierzbicka's claim: That any and all nonprime > words can be defined completely in terms of the semantic primes that she and > her group are finding and testing. Yes, a very strong claim. Unfortunately, only a few of their definitions seem to be available online (at least I haven't managed to find more than a few scattered examples), so it's hard to judge how successful they've been so far. > A second claim (for which they are seeking counterexamples) is that all > natural languages have the primes. Well, Lojban doesn't seem to have a word for FEEL which covers both sensations and emotions, but then it is not a natural language, and the word could always be introduced as a lujvo or fu'ivla. :) mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.