From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Apr 10 12:46:13 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FT2Kh-0001Ku-7r for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:55 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.192]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FT2Kd-0001Kk-Sg for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:55 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so924113nzf for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MSNhAZFd12xnIDF0dd4MOPfLMDN+lmTkjzVF5OZQChmohy2+8JZYsiJY3MS2RViwtPHd6Pfudq1gOFj76n8VELiVGsHukPhrMksfDU/jEw1oTduSBIumBrLSci6Y1HB4QATva8gqtsYp5+nwzKwdoc61pueYJzivai5CXgtBJJs= Received: by 10.36.220.55 with SMTP id s55mr881716nzg; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.20.62 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:45:47 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: [nues@chello.at: Sapir-Whorf] In-Reply-To: <20060409222936.GA26378@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060409222936.GA26378@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 11317 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I presume we are agreed that there is no program of research in place to study Saphir/Whorf effects on Lojban-speakers. I would say that the effect can't be measured until it becomes a living language, and we are now only on the cusp of that. -Matt On 4/9/06, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Anyone want to take this one? > > Feel free to reply to the author. > > -Robin > > > ----- Forwarded message from Nils Sch?ffer ----- > > Subject: Sapir-Whorf > From: Nils Sch?ffer > To: lojban@lojban.org > Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:08:13 +0200 > > coi la lojbangirz > > I've got a few questions concerning the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. Almost > everywhere you can read that JCB created Loglan in order to 'test' the > SWH. Can this attempt now be seen as successful, or did it fail? Or did > it perhaps turn out that Loglan/Lojban is the wrong instrument to test > it? I know that the strong version of the SWH nowadays is not being > really supported by science, but is it still an issue the > Lojban-community is talking about? > > I couldn't find anything on your sites mentioning this subject, that's > why i wanted to ask you directly. > > thanks in advance for answers, > > Nils Sch?ffer > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" > Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.