From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu May 04 18:06:36 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 04 May 2006 18:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fbolu-0004pd-8e for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 18:06:18 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.227]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1Fbols-0004pV-Ee for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 18:06:18 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i13so504821wra for ; Thu, 04 May 2006 18:06:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L52RcmGXin81JSQK1uzWwZzxBTWvF0vNbNAIveQIY3Ji7/ATmOWf1Q3AG4m3kLzVhuKoKEC+GQXa6bA9un60+m0PihKeXeAlascQWnKACTeiGzT4LRVK1w0Rm3kH9J3x0+9u3I34ZQgg6N6VsckJbQXDT4S/RRnvOJ3decHiX90= Received: by 10.54.107.4 with SMTP id f4mr439903wrc; Thu, 04 May 2006 18:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.18 with HTTP; Thu, 4 May 2006 18:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560605041806w4585221dt79a30699d83a985d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 22:06:09 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Usage of lo and le In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560605031836w12547ba3n87934504df64c309@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605040604s4366e278h5385c63dc7c0aacc@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605041643p201da7e1rdc57bb7f1339e9ed@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 11381 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 5/4/06, Maxim Katcharov wrote: > On 5/4/06, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > I think {le} indeed serves to preclude the "any" or "in general" > > interpretation that {lo} does not preclude. > > So... is it then impossible to use {lo'e} in conjunction with "le"? If > it is possible, then what do you mean by {le} serving to preclude the > "any" or "in general" interpretations? I will pass on {lo'e} since I don't really know how it works, nor do I have a theory on how it should work. All I meant is that {le cribe cu nelci le jbari} cannot mean "bears like berries", it can only be a statement about some particular bear or group of bears and some particular berry or bunch of berries, not about bears and berriies in general. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.