From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat May 06 17:05:24 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 06 May 2006 17:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FcWlm-0001uj-4H for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:05:06 -0700 Received: from web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.117]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FcWll-0001uZ-1n for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:05:05 -0700 Received: (qmail 87258 invoked by uid 60001); 7 May 2006 00:05:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hEYW9I+BYk1uhBLReAamLeQxorQgwJPb/gst/KSVcFcKhU2q22heeAJ3SkjmVO8KcotRq7f8gdkjTGvSJDIEvtfJnga70Os2azUUJQdIYVXKM0Wm87jjummPzwhOW3r7/b8nNT8NU2UYOXhYjflawiwVuKj39/+o4yUVp0OuDg8= ; Message-ID: <20060507000503.87256.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.230.152.10] by web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:05:03 PDT Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 17:05:03 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: latna To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <96316419.20060507064544@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-archive-position: 11418 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I think that "lotus" actually covers a number of species (even genera) of water plants: waterlilies, for example. But even if it is strictly lotuses there are more than one speices and certainly a number of straines, etc. The same does apply to a large number of plant and animal predicates, though not consistently. The inconsistency is even more marked for x3 and x4, which could be used for almost any critter, but seems to occur only with {latna} and maybe a very few others. They are not on {gerku}, for example, even though dogs have a variety of significances in different cultures. --- Yanis Batura wrote: > coi ro do la lojban. banli > > The definition of gismu {latna}: > x1 is a lotus, plant/flower/herb of > species/strain x2 symbolizing x3 to > culture/religion x4 > > Rather strange. Why "lotus" if there is x2? > > Why aren't there similar gismu for > mammals/birds/amphibia etc.? > > > > mi'e .ianis. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.