From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 17 08:05:24 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 17 May 2006 08:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FgNaD-00033X-G0 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:05:05 -0700 Received: from web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.128]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FgNaB-00033N-P1 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:05:05 -0700 Received: (qmail 15533 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2006 15:05:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HBFYhQys8jUyJX9PxtL+wVMb6MHSArYTovjQyb2+y5pFOo0Ryd9OzxKDBjbVKilV8z2/JDHGMKhow8IlxUuWQQG+0ZqIRuSsSaa12N15MZGgnkjZe8IAX2pnqux9IPYmQAn8BOUqgLvyeEozdua3hdhaIO6tLxd6kaHcWgzcGTU= ; Message-ID: <20060517150501.15526.qmail@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.237.223.173] by web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:05:01 PDT Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:05:01 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: A (rather long) discussion of {all} To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-archive-position: 11584 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- Maxim Katcharov wrote: 3 "now, taking into account not just the twenty bears that are in the context of the conversation, but also bears that are not in the context of the conversation" ("other") 4 "X such that are bears, and such that are both in context and not in context" "...are in context¬ in context" or "...and are both those that we've been talking about and those that we havn't been talking about", if 2 is wrong. Or did I mess that up elsewhere? The move from "the x that are p and the x that are q" to "the x that are p and q" is a normal error on the part of first month Logic students. The correct distribution is to "the x that are either p or q": not that everything in the combined heap has both proerties but that each has one or the other. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.