From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun May 21 17:59:41 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FhylY-0006ri-5f for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:24 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FhylU-0006rb-TP for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:24 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so1029632ugd for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YpKcNviAV27fD7Uom1KyCFzYmLinorSfcq3ph4aU8hc4bN3t/+uhJrcuk/JzwjKOihkbRG5HcN5lQmwMdWSqdg9nLOkXvQjfRAzWWh1pGdXwIg6yOiBB3Rs2XftMYdWovycxMjghiUAyJuZ3LAVo/0IE80674Aqh78Glb/XkWzc= Received: by 10.78.57.11 with SMTP id f11mr1009050hua; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.23.12 with HTTP; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560605211759s500cdb76kdae7425caf46c8f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 21:59:16 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: A (rather long) discussion of {all} In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560605160731j379ecfdbo42862a88433e112c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605200715t32c87d1dpf95ffb3023c95526@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605201618u41770ed9ob343bbe248e22606@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560605210914u7d4863b7qbf4a28a5fe3e72ee@mail.gmail.com> <370394AC-290A-404D-BEC7-5466A31BC3C2@umich.edu> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 11651 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 5/21/06, Maxim Katcharov wrote: > > - perhaps {ckini} > would be the proper corresponding gismu for {pe}? {srana} seems to > mean "x1 is about/based on the existence of x2", or "x1 is of interest > in some way to the understanding of x2". CLL gives {srana} for it. That's vague enough, but {ckini} is perhaps excessivley vague, since anything is related to anything else by some relationship, so it would be like no restriction at all. On the other hand, the mere presence of the sumti must pragmatically respond to some relevance, so I suppose {ckini} should work too. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.