From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jul 05 07:45:38 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 05 Jul 2006 07:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fy8cw-0001lz-4c for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 07:45:18 -0700 Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fy8co-0001lS-1q for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 07:45:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE60EEBC8A for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 22:44:33 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21539-07 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 22:44:31 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mail.211.ru (mail [10.5.1.2]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06E3EBD16 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 22:44:31 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from localhost (host-102-2-129.211.ru [10.102.2.129]) by mail.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69585C1B for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 21:54:27 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 21:44:46 +0700 From: Yanis Batura X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <668848969.20060705214446@mail.ru> To: Hugh O'Byrne Subject: [lojban] Re: Final nails in the coffin In-Reply-To: <44AB99FB.8060001@gmail.com> References: <44AB99FB.8060001@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------105F6833B641FDF" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 11919 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------------105F6833B641FDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 05.07.2006, 17:52, Hugh O'Byrne wrote: > Wow. I'll give you this: You really do have some oratory skill. > That's *quite* a talent. You did actually have be believing I was being > ineffective at communicating, for a while there. But it _was_ slipping, > over time. and he wrote: > Ahem. and he wrote: > Phew. That *is* a load off. I've learned my lesson, though, I will > keep the CLL much closer at hand from now on. Shoulda done that from > the start. But then, he might have been smart enough not to give me > more of those particular nails. So it all works out in the end. and he wrote: > I guess I've passed the hazing ritual. Thanks... but not really... > Come on guys, couldn't you have told me? That's not funnyyyy... Ah > well. It was a learning experience. I guess I'm happy about that. And > I lasted the distance, without losing my temper *too* much. I'm a > little proud of that, but I'll try to keep my temper in check even > better next time. Having been through this ordeal, I think I *can* do > that better now. So. Yes. I'll call it a positive experience. > Jeez... how much does it pay, being a hazer? That's an icky, icky job. > Tough, too, when you come across someone like me, eh? :) Oh well, > it's your choice. > Thanks for playing, it's been... something... go home now. Having read all this, I really began wondering whether Lojban has enough expressive power to express it. Even with attitudinals. mi'e .ianis. ------------105F6833B641FDF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On 05.07.2006, 17:52, Hugh O'Byrne wrote:

> Wow. I'll give you this: You really do have some oratory skill.

> That's *quite* a talent. You did actually have be believing I was being

> ineffective at communicating, for a while there. But it _was_ slipping,

> over time.

and he wrote:

> Ahem.

and he wrote:

> Phew. That *is* a load off. I've learned my lesson, though, I will

> keep the CLL much closer at hand from now on. Shoulda done that from

> the start. But then, he might have been smart enough not to give me

> more of those particular nails. So it all works out in the end.

and he wrote:

> I guess I've passed the hazing ritual. Thanks... but not really...

> Come on guys, couldn't you have told me? That's not funnyyyy... Ah

> well. It was a learning experience. I guess I'm happy about that. And

> I lasted the distance, without losing my temper *too* much. I'm a

> little proud of that, but I'll try to keep my temper in check even

> better next time. Having been through this ordeal, I think I *can* do

> that better now. So. Yes. I'll call it a positive experience.

> Jeez... how much does it pay, being a hazer? That's an icky, icky job.

> Tough, too, when you come across someone like me, eh? :) Oh well,

> it's your choice.

> Thanks for playing, it's been... something... go home now.

Having read all this, I really began wondering whether Lojban has enough expressive power

to express it. Even with attitudinals.

mi'e .ianis.

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