From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jul 09 08:01:28 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzamR-0000Ne-NQ for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:01:07 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzamQ-0000NW-Ap for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:01:07 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so318098nfe for ; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VIM7PfkPivZsYErZmAlzr5NWGena4HODulfsK80B6vLuMsbL0FM9jENjlxx9nXJCVbSp5N++VwBFwtTMrm+fM8LZwGq9zqtlOqwyNrWljgTO610MI2SyS0QeA7u30HfY6h9wqY2afP5b75aNOmBgvjWd5pf7lJEIfBL0li3ijto= Received: by 10.78.164.13 with SMTP id m13mr1351819hue; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.13.6 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jul 2006 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2d3df92a0607090801l5c834bbax363234cbee0227b5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 17:01:04 +0200 From: HeliodoR To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Language-independent humor In-Reply-To: <925d17560607081225t3805a64ck8c06ea0faa021662@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_37582_14537008.1152457264754" References: <1836234499.20060702070602@mail.ru> <78904337.20060705215056@mail.ru> <2d3df92a0607080904j65e6faa8o8501246ad0e1191d@mail.gmail.com> <678456385.20060708232944@mail.ru> <2d3df92a0607081000q4e1436a3pd1712372a9060651@mail.gmail.com> <1565464009.20060709001700@mail.ru> <2d3df92a0607081137k3a3766cqf95a806b7a44ee39@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560607081225t3805a64ck8c06ea0faa021662@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 12018 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: exitconsole@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_37582_14537008.1152457264754 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > {pe} and {be} belong to different selma'o and they have different > functions. o'a nai ru'e {be} attaches a sumti to a brivla. {pe} attaches a sumti to another sumti. {be} can only be used right after a brivla (or other > tanru unit). It cannot be used between a gadri and a brivla. ua nai Did I remember a {la be [sumti] ku [cmene]} form? The sequence is as follows: > > [...] > You attach to the sumti another sumti. (This is about {pe}-attachments, yes?) > There are three places where you can place this attached sumti: between the gadri and the brivla, between the brivla and {ku}, or after the {ku}. Yup. A tanru unit with attached sumti can also be used as part of a tanru, > as in the tanru {broda be ko'a brode}. You can't do that with {pe} because > there is no sumti in {broda brode} to attach another sumti to. I see. ki'e do mu'o ------=_Part_37582_14537008.1152457264754 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
{pe} and {be} belong to different selma'o and they have different
functions.
 
o'a nai ru'e

{be} attaches a sumti to a brivla. {pe} attaches a sumti to
another sumti. {be} can only be used right after a brivla (or other
tanru unit). It cannot be used between a gadri and a brivla.
 
ua nai
Did I remember a {la be [sumti] ku [cmene]} form?

The sequence is as follows:

[...]
You attach to the sumti another sumti.
 
(This is about {pe}-attachments, yes?)
 
There are three places where you can place this attached sumti:
between the gadri and the brivla, between the brivla and {ku}, or after
the {ku}.
 
Yup.

A tanru unit with attached sumti can also be used as part of a tanru,
as in the tanru {broda be ko'a brode}. You can't do that with {pe} because
there is no sumti in {broda brode} to attach another sumti to.
 
I see. ki'e do
 
mu'o
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