From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jul 19 14:31:33 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3Jcv-0003fD-LZ for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:30:41 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.178]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3Jct-0003f5-RQ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:30:41 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m51so475177pye for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:30:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OSPw+P4ArTmHtLui3qLe1Sw4YuiBcIgIWfZblLil0nJ0LIt8YuP9TwYf8kXldJf3YUtQ4mkJlVjF8BQdxFblhRG0IXqQw+cKy9m2z5SxbPmTv8yoPJT/C5RPukTOlrh7CECEYWPLbu7n+TcKSmBjXvf0gT5rYaOvrWHeZnY1uB0= Received: by 10.35.9.15 with SMTP id m15mr1794285pyi; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.14.17 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560607191430g1b257e86lde29454e0f56740d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:30:37 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: A (rather long) discussion of {all} In-Reply-To: <20060719205829.21066.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560607191055p7c2679a1w34844c667d81eef6@mail.gmail.com> <20060719205829.21066.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 12253 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list T24gNy8xOS8wNiwgSm9obiBFIENsaWZmb3JkIDxjbGlmZm9yZC1qQHNiY2dsb2JhbC5uZXQ+IHdy b3RlOgo+IC0tLSBKb3JnZSBMbGFtYu+/vWFzIDxqamxsYW1iaWFzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6 Cj4KPiA+IFdoYXQgaXMgdGhlIGRpZmZlcmVuY2UgYmV0d2VlbiB3ZWFyaW5nIGEgaGF0IGFuZCBj YXJyeWluZyBhIGNoYWlyIHRoYXQKPiA+IG1ha2VzICJ0aGUgc3R1ZGVudHMgY2FycnkgY2hhaXJz IiBjLXRydWUgYnV0ICJ0aGUgc3R1ZGVudHMgd2VhciBoYXRzIgo+ID4gbm90IGMtdHJ1ZSwgd2hl biBpbiBib3RoIGNhc2VzIGVhY2ggc3R1ZGVudCBkb2VzPwo+ID4KPiBBdCBsZWFzdCB0d28gdGhp bmdzOiAxKSBoYXRzLCBieSB0aGVpciBuYXR1cmUsIGNhbiBvbmx5IGJlIHdvcm4gYnkgb25lIHBl cnNvbiBhdCBhIHRpbWUsIHNvIHRoZQo+IGNvbGxlY3RpdmUgZG9lcyBub3QgbWFrZSBzZW5zZQoK U28gdGhlIHJ1bGUgd291bGQgYmU6CiJXaGVuZXZlciB0aGUgY29sbGVjdGl2ZSByZWFkaW5nIHdv dWxkIG1ha2Ugc2Vuc2UsIGQtdHJ1ZSBpbXBsaWVzIGMtdHJ1ZSwKb3RoZXJ3aXNlLCBpdCBkb2Vz bid0Ij8KCkkgZmluZCB0aGF0IHJ1bGUgdmVyeSBvZGQuCgo+IDIpICJoYXRzIiBpcyBpbmRlZmlu aXRlOiBpZiBpdCB3ZXJlICJ0aGUgc3R1ZGVudHMgd29yZSBUSEUgaGF0cyIgYQo+IGNvbGxlY3Rp dmUgd291bGQgYmUgcG9zc2libGUgYmVjYXVzZSB3ZSBub3cgaGF2ZSBhIHNwZWNpZmljIGdyb3Vw IHRvIGNvdmVyLCB0aGF0IGlzIHdlIGNhbiBnZXQgYQo+IGdyb3VwLWdyb3VwIHJlbGF0aW9uc2hp cCB3aGljaCBpcyBub3QgYXZhaWxhYmxlIHdpdGggdGhlIGluZGVmaW5pdGUgKHRvIGJlIHN1cmUg dGhyZWUgaXMgdGhlIGdyb3VwCj4gb2Ygd29ybiBoYXRzLCBidXQgdGhhdCBpcyBub3QgbWVudGlv bmVkLCBpdCBtZXJlbHkgaXMuCgpBdCB0aGlzIHBvaW50IEkgd2FzIGFza2luZyBhYm91dCAidGhl IHN0dWRlbnRzIHdlYXIgaGF0cyIgdnMuICJ0aGUgc3R1ZGVudHMKY2FycnkgY2hhaXJzIi4gSSBw cmVzdW1lICJ0aGUgc3R1ZGVudHMgY2FycnkgY2hhaXJzIiBpcyBjLXRydWUgZXZlbiB3aGVuCmVh Y2ggc3R1ZGVudCBjYXJyaWVzIG9uZSBjaGFpciwgaXNuJ3QgaXQ/IElmIHNvLCAoMikgZG9lcyBu b3QgY291bnQgYXMKYSBkaWZmZXJlbmNlLgoKPiBOb3RlIHRoYXQgdGhlIGNvbGxlY3RpdmUgc2Vu c2UgZm9yIHdlYXJpbmcKPiBoYXRzIGNhbiBvbmx5IGFyaXNlIGZyb20gdGhlIGRpc3RyaWJ1dGl2 ZSBvbmUsIHdoZXJlYXMgdGhlIGNhc2UgZm9yIGNhcnJ5aW5nIGNoYWlycyBtaWdodCBjb21lCj4g ZnJvbSBhbnkgYXJyYW5nZW1lbnQgb2YgdGhlIG1lbWJlcnMgb2YgdGhlIGdyb3VwIGFuZCB0aGUg Y2hhaXJzLgoKIkluZGl2aWR1YWxseSIsICJpbiBwYWlycyIsICJpbiBncm91cHMgb2YgdGhyZWUi LCAiaW4gZ3JvdXBzIG9mIHZhcnlpbmcgbnVtYmVyIiwKImFsbCB0b2dldGhlciIgYXJlIGFsbCBk aWZmZXJlbnQgcGFydGljdWxhciBjYXNlcywgYW5kICJpbmRpdmlkdWFsbHkiCmRvZXMgbm90IHNl ZW0KdG8gd2FycmFudCBhIHNwZWNpYWwgZC10cnVlIHRvIGNvbnRyYXN0IGl0IHdpdGggYSBjLXRy dWUgZm9yIGFsbCB0aGUKcmVzdC4gQ2VydGFpbmx5CiJpbmRpdmlkdWFsbHkiIGFuZCAiYWxsIHRv Z2V0aGVyIiBhcmUgc3BlY2lhbCBjYXNlcywgYmVjYXVzZSB0aGV5IGFyZSB0aGUgdHdvCmV4dHJl bWUgb25lcywgYnV0IEkgZG9uJ3Qgc2VlIGFueSBvYnZpb3VzIHJlYXNvbiB0byBsdW1wIGFsbCB0 aGUgaW50ZXJtZWRpYXRlCmNhc2VzIHdpdGggdGhlICJhbGwgdG9nZXRoZXIiIGNhc2UgdG8gdGhl IGV4Y2x1c2lvbiBvZiB0aGUgImluZGl2aWR1YWxseSIgY2FzZS4KCm11J28gbWknZSB4b3J4ZXMK To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.