From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Aug 01 16:29:37 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G83fq-0005xT-5E for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:29:18 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G83fp-0005xM-6l for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:29:17 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so1521969uge for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:29:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hT66KS2C+YNJ51L8QNq5wbXRfPDcEYMFZwyR8K+G+46rmFIKD26vYxUJbqEJuhjlqYvP13NiCAttKOP80j/OUOyCZQMA4eM3Ob7F+kMNducvSbwSY2NakNl5Sq7YenbUBWwih0k1N1KxsrsjiQymn6/ILZs3uC7qTfAIrwdbY1E= Received: by 10.78.136.7 with SMTP id j7mr68817hud; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.33.3 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c160608011629m31adcfafuf3299e49bc97e385@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:29:15 -0400 From: "Adam COOPER" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: bo, i, and ni'o In-Reply-To: <737b61f30608011602r5af5b8b7s87d1ce45ca98955e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_88116_31504277.1154474955120" References: <737b61f30607312013v643cfe8ah5c71366b74a0e322@mail.gmail.com> <7F14BDEF-4DEF-4C48-92E5-D515F4A35F42@umich.edu> <737b61f30608011602r5af5b8b7s87d1ce45ca98955e@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-archive-position: 12299 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adamgarrigus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_88116_31504277.1154474955120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 8/1/06, Chris Capel wrote: > > On 8/1/06, Alex Martini wrote: > > > > On Jul 31, 2006, at 11:13 PM, Chris Capel wrote: > > > This is valid Lojban (I hope): > > > > > > ba zi bo le cnino cu sipna > > > > .ienai jboski chokes on the {bo}. Although, I don't have a DOS > > emulator handy on this computer, or i'd run it through the official > > parser just to be sure. > > That's odd. In your quote you have "ba zi bo", but in the post I sent > I have "i ba zi bo". Yes, jbofi'e chokes on it without the "i". After running into this problem a few times, I concluded that {bo} is a connector dependent on the previous statement. Two statements connected by a {bo} are kind of like a single sentence. E.g. mi pensi i se ni'i bo mi zasti I think, therefore I am. So the dependence requires the {.i} which at least implies a previous statement, & precludes the {ni'o} because a sentence can't spill over into a new paragraph. My explanation probably suffers from quite a bit of imprecision, but it's something like that. mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan ------=_Part_88116_31504277.1154474955120 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 8/1/06, Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/1/06, Alex Martini <alexjm@umich.edu> wrote:
>
> On Jul 31, 2006, at 11:13 PM, Chris Capel wrote:
> > This is valid Lojban (I hope):
> >
> > ba zi bo le cnino cu sipna
>
> .ienai jboski chokes on the {bo}. Although, I don't have a DOS
> emulator handy on this computer, or i'd run it through the official
> parser just to be sure.

That's odd. In your quote you have "ba zi bo", but in the post I sent
I have "i ba zi bo". Yes, jbofi'e chokes on it without the "i".

After running into this problem a few times, I concluded that {bo} is a connector dependent on the previous statement. Two statements connected by a {bo} are kind of like a single sentence. E.g.

mi pensi i se ni'i bo mi zasti
I think, therefore I am.

So the dependence requires the {.i} which at least implies a previous statement, & precludes the {ni'o} because a sentence can't spill over into a new paragraph.

My explanation probably suffers from quite a bit of imprecision, but it's something like that.

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan


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