From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Aug 08 17:19:30 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GAbmx-0005yV-8K for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:19:11 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GAbmw-0005yM-MT; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:19:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 17:19:10 -0700 To: Matt Arnold , lojban-list@digitalkingdom.org, llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Helping with the BPFK for skilled Lojbanists who don't like formality. Message-ID: <20060809001910.GJ28190@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: Matt Arnold , lojban-list, llg-members@lojban.org References: <20060707224943.GB18983@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20060807041126.GE28190@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <44D6D0E3.30801@lojban.org> <55b258c20608070650h49460f55j94594cfa5e5ac0e6@mail.gmail.com> <20060808232434.GZ28190@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 12357 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list [about making a dictionary] > >> >What distinguishes this proposed dictionary from Jbovlaste? > >> > > >> > >> Technically, jbovlaste is not quite official. (Someone correct > >> me if I'm wrong.) We don't stand on formalities, so we treat it > >> as official anyway; but it would be nice to get a PDF such as > >> the one it generates and give it official imprimatur. > > > >I will vote against anything involving producing an official > >dictionary until the BPFK is done. If you want a dictionary, > >help the BPFK. > > OK, where do I start? > > That's a far more worthy goal anyway The thing is, to be a BPFK member you're going to have to accept a certain amount of structure and formalism, and every time I point you at structure and formalism you run the other way. This is hardly unique to you, which is why I'm sending this out publically. So, let's take a crack at the proxy method, which has been discussed but never used. You want to help the BPFK with as little hassle as possible? Do this: 1. Go to http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Sections&bl 2. Pick a section that doesn't seem to have had any real work done on it. For comparison, a finished section looks like one of these: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+Text+Structure+cmavo&bl http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+Causation+sumtcita&bl http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+Distance&bl and unfinished sections look like this: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+Non-Contact+Spatial&bl That is, just the cmavo list. If a section you want to work on is already "owned" by someone else, but little or no real work has been done, that's totally OK. 3. Write up a proposal for some or all of that section, and e-mail it to me. I will handle everything else. How's that? -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.