From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Aug 20 08:27:24 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEpCa-0008Vc-2D for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:27:04 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEpCY-0008VS-Rj for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:27:03 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so1995890nfc for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:27:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XwzhLPKwovFF/FP7lGeorLHv5cMI7iiYrix12URDhSi1C5OFV8kzolXdBnjRhob9dWGfBO0Pct3ZPmzq+lWZt7xaHjn1wNC8afbukd3G0HewECF19b7ob3JBL8udnc3O6a4XhCYHzir7b2E25j1LYIL7/5Aqv7svWQAkx0FaZqE= Received: by 10.49.43.2 with SMTP id v2mr6609804nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.161.17 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:27:00 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Intermediate English In-Reply-To: <486241670.20060820195619@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <997079364.20060820150033@mail.ru> <492596e80608200331j94962f8h880b999430ebaaa8@mail.gmail.com> <1427226709.20060820175939@mail.ru> <492596e80608200457t4f1e33dau1746b148b90323f9@mail.gmail.com> <486241670.20060820195619@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12515 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 8/20/06, Yanis Batura wrote: > > On 20.08.2006, 18:57, Wang Xuerui wrote: > > Feel free to tell me if there's anything needs improvement. > > You're kidding! > > Should be "if there anything needs improvement" or "if there is anything in > need of improvement". "if there anything needs improvement" is incorrect. You want "if anything needs improvement" or "if there is anything that needs improvement." > By the way, the native English speakers (who actually *should* extend > helping hands to us in improving our English) prefer to leave it as it is. > Maybe they think it is not very polite to correct mistakes of others :) Or > maybe just tired of doing it before. It's fine for you to correct each other's English on the list. I don't think anyone will object. However, the reason many of us do not do so is that we came to the list for the purpose of correcting each other's Lojban instead. Almost no one speaks Lojban perfectly. We are happy just to start by making ourselves understood, and then improve from there. So why should we demand that English be spoken perfectly? Yanis, Wang, you both speak English better than many native English-speakers I know. Your few English mistakes do not cause any problems in understanding or communication. That is the important thing. - epkat To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.