From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Oct 02 07:00:42 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GUOKx-00081N-QG for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:00:06 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GUOKm-00080o-Ax for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:00:01 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so498849ugr for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:59:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J/9f99FJdGI2BpmDdTI5cEsYt/uslBlQ/F9L4zwnGValSIjgKU24aVWM7LS/txx+D51J9UkFDakAa5VM+zRXYwf4qPPOoPdYct61ZmjbgrX7GSjWbbrLdgckZha1Nd5uQ06ySqsWQy3ru64rvHGZSBoOt0eitno9uv8+7pk9Weg= Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr3501988hug; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.144.3 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 06:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:59:45 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: everyday lojban In-Reply-To: <411a52d90610011700t175abbaeidaf4fa66c41ac3bb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <411a52d90610011426p43a359cfqe452abffd2da4aed@mail.gmail.com> <200610011748.05593.phma@phma.optus.nu> <411a52d90610011700t175abbaeidaf4fa66c41ac3bb@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-archive-position: 12668 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Someone here might be able to correct me, but it seems that every series of letters that is used as a cmavo (a word) is also used as rafsi syllable (a prefix or suffix), and all rafsi are also used as cmavo. (Or almost all.) When Lojban is spoken properly, the listener can always tell whether it's being used as a cmavo or rafsi. -epkat On 10/1/06, Hans Isbrücker wrote: > Thanks, that made it clear. > .uacai > .i mi je'a ki'e do > > > > On 10/1/06, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Sunday 01 October 2006 17:26, Hans Isbrücker wrote: > > > So rafsi on there own are permitted? > > > > No. {pei} is a cmavo, which happens to resemble the rafsi of {pensi}. > > Similarly {gau}, {bau}, and several others. But {poi} is a relative > > conjunction, not the preposition corresponding to {porsi}, which is > {po'i}, > > which sounds like the rafsi for {porpi}. And {mupli} has two cmavo in > > different selma'o: {mu'a}, a discursive, and {mu'u}, a preposition; and no > > CVV rafsi. > > > > Pierre > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.