From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Oct 13 23:32:39 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GYd4C-0003SO-VX for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:32:17 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GYd48-0003S3-NB for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:32:16 -0700 Received: from [192.168.25.19] (unknown [192.168.25.19]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F651CE842 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 02:32:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: round numbers Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 02:31:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200610131230.01748.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560610131234v51af0cb1p7cd6d68a9c1b2511@mail.gmail.com> <4530022E.4010202@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <4530022E.4010202@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610140231.51016.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-archive-position: 12709 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Friday 13 October 2006 17:16, Dmitry wrote: > I am quite against such idea. Even if all the languages use the same (or > similar) words both for describing numerical and geometrical roundness, > it will not be a reason to use cukla namcu, because such suggestion will > be against of ideas of Lojban. {cukla namcu} should mean "number of > round/circular type". We have {xarna'u}, which is a similar calque. i is no more a product of imagination than the fifth root of 2 or a googolplex, nor does it have anything more to do with imagination than with health (I briefly toyed with the idea of calling them {ka'orna'u}, misusing the cmavo as a rafsi). > For me, it sounds like another name for {pai}, (3.141529...), number, > that is definitely much more related to circles, than 0,10,20,.... > My proposal for "round number" is > > pilji be li pano > > Ewww, that's 2 syllables longer than {cukla namcu}. But it much more > reflects the nature of round number, doesn't it? A number that's round in another base (e.g. 1458, which is round in base 3) is usually not a multiple of 10, and a large enough multiple of 10 (e.g. 335543930) isn't round. Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.