From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 26 23:40:31 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GdLO1-0004fX-0f for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:40:13 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GdLNx-0004f0-29 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:40:12 -0700 Received: from [192.168.7.11] (unknown [192.168.7.11]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CB0CE889 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 02:39:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Gismu space? Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 02:39:30 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <1161922951.45418987bfc61@webmail.pdx.edu> In-Reply-To: <1161922951.45418987bfc61@webmail.pdx.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610270239.32889.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-archive-position: 12808 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Friday 27 October 2006 00:22, Ryan Keppel wrote: > coi ju'o zoi gy. Is gismu space as full as cmavo space? I notice that the > gismu list is very old. Certainly there have been suggestions about this. > What is most annoying is that certain very specific gismu, like cinfo > (lion) exist. By themselves, they are fine. However, the lack of needed > words in science, math, and technology makes it a shame. Maybe it's the > transhumanist in me speaking. I would hope that gismu (and cmavo) would > reflect a move towards science and technology. We should not have idiocy > like Christianity elevated to gismu. Maybe make is a fu'ivla "irrational > suiciders" or something. .gy. .u'inai co'o fe'o I think there should be more gismu for kinds of chemicals and other morphemes that go into chemical names. Although, say, "alkyne" isn't a commonly used word, making a complex chemical name out of rafsi fu'ivla, or ordinary fu'ivla connected with {zei}, makes it thrice as long as it ought to be. I'm no expert on chemistry, but I know that numbers are used in at least two different ways in chemical names, which may require another set of number rafsi besides {pav, rel, cib...}. Also there ought to be more plant and animal names. Currently the bird gismu include two Anseriformes, two Galliformes, and none of the largest order of birds. I think {korvo} would be a good addition, As to plants, there is no gismu for the most eaten fruit in the world; it should have the gismu {mango}, as agreed by five of the six languages (the Hindi word is "aam"). And several times when trying to coin a word, I could not find quite the right gismu. The "round numbers" is the latest. Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.