From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Oct 29 19:55:16 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GeOEi-0004bu-LK for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:54:56 -0800 Received: from f55.mail.ru ([194.67.57.90]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GeOEf-0004bk-R3 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:54:56 -0800 Received: from mail by f55.mail.ru with local id 1GeOEd-000Lnd-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:54:51 +0300 Received: from [212.17.0.61] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:54:51 +0300 From: Yanis Batura To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Wikipedia Interface in Lojban Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: unknown via proxy [212.17.0.61] Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:54:51 +0300 In-Reply-To: =?windows-1251?Q?<925d17560610290919n68eab99fyf669c00193e16d63=40mail.gmail.com>?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 12820 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list -----Original Message----- From: "Jorge LlambÌas" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:19:03 -0300 Subject: [lojban] Re: Wikipedia Interface in Lojban > Would it be possible to change the inscription of the logo? > {uikipedias po'u le zifre vricyjuncku} is ungrammatical Lojban, > since {po'u} cannot attach to a bare cmevla. I would just use > {uikipedias zifre vricyjuncku}, without unneeded cmavo. > ... I think that's for Pierre, since changing a major element like the logo of Wikipedia is a concern for bureaucrats, not sysops. > There are also some pages with similarly ungrammatical names, > such as {gligu'e cu jamna la zynzebar}. You can freely modify both the name and contents of the article. > I would change the odd {fi'i do vi la uikipedias} to something > more meaningful like {fi'i doi vitke be la uikipedias}. I saw you'd done that. > I prefer {stika} rather than {galfi} for "edit", because editing normally > involves making adjustments to something, not changing something > into something else. For example, if I edit the page named {lojban}, > I am modifying the page named {lojban} by adding something to it or > changing something in it, I am not turning the page named {lojban} > into something that is no longer the page named {lojban}. {galfi} meant changing the *content* of the article, and indeed, {ba lo nu galfi} the former contents change into something new. {stika} seems weaker for me here, since it supposes (slight) adjustments of what is already present in general, whereas a Wikipedia article can be hugely changed in one edit. mi'e .ianis To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.