From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Nov 06 08:08:54 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:08:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gh71U-0007eb-S8 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:08:33 -0800 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.228]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gh71M-0007eT-Tn for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:08:32 -0800 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 55so152418wri for ; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:08:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rs5Yzz53KFqXEWMF08mxyEDCNUubJy87dYtN1FdTN4BBOJSmV/lRGEiFSZBqOS2o2ArMU21V4aBOAHiioLlyKDZ+5nzDhzkqafdq/5mEO6ZRD7s3Ytxw7kZRweStLNLPiOmhAnDFd3gZZ6V+PHbwONonpYVwDI5VlT4p9v7Nkb0= Received: by 10.78.48.16 with SMTP id v16mr3546237huv.1162829300331; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.144.3 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 08:08:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:08:19 -0500 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination Cc: "Alex Martini" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 12911 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list lokadin, First I will say this: Thank you for being involved enough to take an interest in this. Thank you for posting to the blog. I wish more of us would. I don't want you to stop. I don't want anyone to stop participating. Secondly I must say this: The passages you cited do not describe an alternative capitalization. They show how to capitalize words whose stress breaks the stress rules of Lojban, and _only_ those words. Lojban does not permit that capitalization on words which obey the stress rules. Your post is not valid Lojban. You have not shown that it is. The Lojban blog appears on the homepage and is the public face of the language community. It is acceptable to make mistakes in Lojban on the blog and discuss how to correct them. It is even acceptable to deliberately show variation that deviates from Lojban, as you have done. But it may only be done in order to have a thought experiment for us to discuss. You have to label it as not Lojban. You are not allowed to pass it off as real Lojban and confuse beginners who come to the blog. Alex and I are both admins of the blog. He's mistaken about one thing: Livejournal does not give us the power to edit your post, only delete it. Only you, as the post's author, can edit it without deleting it. In order for beginners to not be confused by your post, please add text describing what you do as an illegal variation, something which is not Lojban but something to think about and discuss on the blog as a fun and harmless thought experiment for our community. Then we'll leave it. If you don't, we will have to delete your post. -Eppcott To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.